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what's up UFO garage we're here with

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Dave Skye spaced-out radio man how you

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doing today brother I'm good good coming

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through a little bit of a cold but you

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know like I made it through the entire

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Canadian winter without a cold first

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time ever and like three days before I

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come down to UFO Con my son gets sick at

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school come on like the timing couldn't

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be worse right right but you know I

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guess that's just the way it goes

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sometimes nothing like coming to sunny

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California with a cold I left home at

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3:10 in the morning on Wednesday to

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catch a flight I had to drive to

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Vancouver and when I left home it was

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minus 18 degrees Celsius so it's about

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minus 12 Fahrenheit gnarly I think the

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only time I've ever experienced a cold

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like that I come from like a military

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family and so we used to live in Germany

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and holy crap like like so much snow

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like I've never seen that much snow ever

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like anywhere else in my entire life and

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then we like you know live in Texas our

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whole life and and man you know you just

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kind of develop that all right once it

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gets to about like in the 50s okay now

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anything after that but like I'm one of

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those people though I would prefer it to

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be over a hundred degrees than like

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freezing cold any day of the week like

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this is perfect this yeah I'm digging

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this weather and I'm sweating well yeah

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man so I mean we saw your your your

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first speech and then we watched you

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interview a Kevin day that was awesome

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man so I guess for you know a lot of

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people already know you and your show

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but for those who are maybe just kind of

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coming into this tell them who you are

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and what you do man I I host a show

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called spaced out radio which runs seven

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days a week I

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Monday through Friday and then we have a

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weekend crew right now of Everett themer

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we're looking for a new Saturday host to

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kind of take things on and and and join

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our team right now but you know it's

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something that we do out of love and

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passion you know there's there's a lot

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that we're trying to do you know we're

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just not a podcast we're a live radio

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show we're a business right yeah we're

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we're quite fledgling but you know we're

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trying to be able to to bring this

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message to the masses you know because

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one of the things and God bless art Bell

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you know I remember when I worked in

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terrestrial radio you'd walk into the

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studio and you'd have to go do your your

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news or your sports or whatever but

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inside the newsroom we actually had art

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bell playing on a different radio

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station oh and and one thing that I

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always say to people guys is there's a

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lot of people doing podcasts and show is

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out there whether it's it's on radio or

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whether it's on internet radio or

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podcasts or YouTube or or whatever and I

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always like to remind people there's

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only one art bell absolutely you know

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and so many of us who are trying to cut

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our teeth into this and I've been doing

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this five years now we're all trying

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really hard to mark our own niche will

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never be art Bell the biggest problem

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that we have in a paranormal industry is

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the best came first right right okay

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yeah you know like in hockey it took 70

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years for the NHL to get Wayne Gretzky

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it took baseball 30 years before Babe

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hundreds of years before Muhammad Ali

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yeah and yet in radio when it comes to

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paranormal radio especially the best

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came out of the gate first and we're all

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judged on that yeah and what I always

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remind people whether it's our show or

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whether it's anybody else's show give

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them a few weeks give them a few

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episodes before you say all that guys

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just trying to be like our Bell or that

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woman's trying to be like our belt we're

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not trying to be like our Bell we're

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trying to be ourselves right right yeah

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and that's how we grow because there's

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still a lot of disappointed people out

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there that art is unfortunately passed

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away and you know when he stopped doing

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his show but at the same time there's a

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lot of good broadcasts out there and we

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just have to be able to give those

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people to support and the opportunity to

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do it and if you listen to my show great

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if you don't listen to my show but you

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listen to say Jimmy Church or or Connie

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Willis or Clyde Lewis alright it's some

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of the best out there fine that's

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beautiful

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I'll just listen because there's good

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topics and good people in this field

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everywhere yeah absolutely man yeah yeah

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that is super important like you know

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make it your own be yourself you you

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can't be these you know these other you

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know these other people who are great

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you know and I know that we had had a

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comment one time where you know I said

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that you know I really enjoyed Clyde

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Lewis like I love to show you know it

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was like it was you know coast to coast

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and then well actually was it was Clyde

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Lewis first you know Ground Zero and the

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coast to coast would come on and I would

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stay up late just to catch those two

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shows you know and you know we had a

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comet they were like oh you guys are

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nothing like Clyde Lewis it was like no

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but that's the points that we're not

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trying to like buy those you gotta be

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your own thing you know yeah everybody

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wants to throw this copycat label out

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there uh-huh

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when all you're trying to do is be

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yourself yeah and it's unfair it's a

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it's obtuse thinking yeah and we just

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have to you know support each other you

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know like right how much bitching and

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moaning in this entire field for what

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there is like do you know all it takes

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it's like you know think about it in a

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retail selection man like you go to the

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mall how many clothing stores are there

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had one because that's what the pair of

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normal community you're not art Bell

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George Noory yeah I know I know oh yeah

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you know so just just sit back and relax

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and be thankful that there are this many

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yeah some better than others right yeah

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who want to get some sort of message out

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because they feel it's their drive their

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ability their duty to do that I think

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you said dude dude that's our niche

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right there but man yeah so I was

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looking through you know like your show

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and like how it's all set up and dude

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like every single day that's impressive

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you know what I'm saying yeah and I

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would assume that's this is like what

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you do full-time right I mean that's

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that's just kind of see that's that's

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awesome yeah we do we try and do one a

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we still are putting in you know 50 plus

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hours I had regular jobs you know but

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still trying to do this and keep it

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going on cuz you said man it is cool

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it's it really important and it's

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something that you know you try and just

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absolutely and I can honestly say and

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I've said this story many times but you

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know there's always people who are like

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ah that's BS but God's honest truth if I

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would have known how much there was for

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people doing this type of a broadcast I

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when I left terrestrial radio in 2007

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time I walked away from radio right I

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didn't know what podcasting was I had no

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idea blood BlogTalkRadio I I didn't even

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know up until recently how to put a

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technically naive and so where I come

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from in Canada the only thing we had for

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paranormal was coast to coast

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on radio I'm like well what radio

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station is gonna pick us up you just

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put you on the air Yeah right right

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trust us it's good it just doesn't work

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that way

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BlogTalkRadio and mix ler and all of

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these these online broadcast forums and

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I knew nothing about it I knew nothing

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because well like I said when I walked

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away from radio I walked away and I've

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literally had to find my own niche over

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time but if I would have known there

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were literally thousands a pair of

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neural podcasts out there I don't know

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if I would have done it right yeah I

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really don't and I feel like there's

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more and more recently like in the past

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maybe three years they kind of blew up

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like there's there's podcasters like

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hundreds of podcasts just about Bigfoot

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you know I know dudes and things you

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know yeah it's kind of blown up for it

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has and you know without putting anybody

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down there's too many there's too many

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and what happens when you get too many

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is you you start to focus on only

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certain aspects of the research you're

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interested in you're not going after the

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full research because if something

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doesn't suit your parameters you're not

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going to cover it and that's what we see

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is there's so many different podcasts

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you take Bigfoot okay you have the

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scientific community leaves it's a

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hominid believes it's a you know a

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relative of Gigantopithecus then you

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believes that it's an interdimensional

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shapeshifter much like a lot of

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indigenous people believe okay yeah and

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people who've had strange experiences

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they can't explain then you have the

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community who says Sasquatch are people

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too and should be given the right to

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vote right yeah I love all all of us but

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well so do I but do we really need a

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hundred podcasts of each yeah no no I

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think I think to play devil's advocate

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on that would be that there has been

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like this huge rise and interest of the

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subject as a whole like it's kind of

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like like had this new surge of like

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absolutely they were like so many people

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think a lot of these shows and stuff at

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started to pop up to kind of absolutely

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feel the the demand you know what I'm

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you know the other ones will will die

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well we're in a time what happens is

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people get bored or they get stuck like

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listeners at night right and that hurt

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right and I was like really is this

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one-hundred creeping up mm-hmm and

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that's kind of where you have to stay

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focus a lot of people get frustrated

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over that or they they don't understand

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you know this thing right here is a

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powerful thing and if you don't know how

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to speak on if you don't know how to be

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comfortable on a microphone it's very

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difficult yeah you know you get the

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people who will do the play-by-play

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well I'm hold on one second here I'm

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that coffee is really really good I'm

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just gonna put my cup down now yeah yeah

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we don't need a play-by-play right you

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know I've been watching what you guys

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are doing I'm always listening man I'm

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always listening what you guys do you

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guys just come in here you have fun and

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you you know you just talk and let's

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talk about some fun subjects and that's

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what it needs to be like you guys you

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don't care about what the subject matter

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is let's just toss talk about yeah you

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know just various people so many people

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you know Bigfoot's a big hairy monkey

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and you know or you get a lot of the

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paranormal podcasts out there what kind

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of equipment do you use oh you use that

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right yeah I stopped using that about

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six years ago because you know I heard

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for a friend of a friend of a friend who

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says that doesn't work properly and I

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believed what they said so I can't

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believe you're still using that out

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right I think one thing that helps us

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out a lot too is the fact that we're not

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trying to bestow knowledge upon you

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we're not trying to tell you like

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because what we know and what we think

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we're

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we want to learn if you have something

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to say we want to learn about it and we

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want to adapt to translate to the

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listeners like you learn along with us

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at the same time you know and that's

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that's kind of like our goal it's it's

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not to teach you it's to have you learn

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at the same time as we are I have a

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slogan for spaced-out radio it is we

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believe everybody and the reason why we

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do that is I've never sat in your shoes

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I've never stood in your shoes okay

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so Who am I to sit there and say that

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your experience is wrong your experience

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is already right you know I've had

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things happen to me man that I can't

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explain they are completely different

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than what everybody else is reported

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does that mean I'm wrong with what I saw

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I don't think so right I don't think my

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eyes are lying tanned right Yeah right

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it's your experience yeah if you're

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comfortable with would you like to [\h__\h]

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could you share your experience that you

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experience I know you have this little

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friend Karl Karl Karl is this something

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that happened at the studio or is this

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something that okay at your house or do

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you want the long version or the short

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version version man all right so I'm

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somebody I always have my outdoor lights

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on mm-hmm and this happened at my

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previous home and for some reason that

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week I just was always forgetting to

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turn my outdoor lights on and I lived in

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a subdivision I had a rancher style

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house so you know all the fronts look

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the same they have the big bay window

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for the living room then the front door

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then a bedroom and then the garage door

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right that's pretty much what it is and

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we had moved my daughter downstairs into

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a brand new bedroom that we built for

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her and I kind of converted her old

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bedroom into my first pseudo radio

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studio right on yeah and about three

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nights of not turning my outside lights

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on actually let me preface this first we

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always have one of those houses back

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then where all of our friends could come

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over at any time they all knew our code

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do our garage

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storge nice new that are you know just

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text a message and front door will be

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unlocked like yeah I wanted one of those

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community homes so absolutely my buddies

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you know cool yes I hated going out the

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beer is always cold that the coffee's

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always on yeah right and so we ended up

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you know just always having people over

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so it was not out of the realm of

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possibility for somebody to come over at

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like 9:30 10:00 10:30 11:00 at night

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mm-hmm and I'm a night owl so I don't

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care right I usually go to bed around

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1:30 2 o'clock every morning yeah and

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excuse me and so on this particular

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night it was April 20th 2015 so yeah of

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course the 4/20 everybody like smoking

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Dave I don't smoke pot okay yes I come

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from Canada I'm from one of the only

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ones who doesn't smoke pot right and so

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all of a sudden it's about 10:17 this is

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only when I had a two hour show I was

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interviewing a guy named Harvey Kraft

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and we were talking Buddha of all topics

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and out of the corner of my eye so if

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I'm facing here so if I'm facing the

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camera that's where my computer screen

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is and the window would be to my left

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about three four feet and out of the

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corner of my eye I see something move

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out the window and so my first

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inclination is oh crap somebody's come

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over they're going to come ring the

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doorbell or knock on the front door and

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my dogs are going to bark and at that

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time I had a little chihuahua dachshund

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where if there was a knock at the door

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that was the equivalent of about 25

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minutes of barking okay so here I am

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thinking crap you know like it's a thin

402
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wall in between in between the room and

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and the front door in the hallway area

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there and I'm thinking crap this is

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going to be a lot of noise a lot of

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noise

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and there's no knock at the door there's

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no dogs barking so and I get up and I

409
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only had probably three or four friends

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that knew I was actually doing the radio

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show at that time my parents didn't even

412
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know I was doing this right yeah yeah

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nice and so here I am broadcasting and

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I'd swivel my chair and look out the

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window to see who is there and I look

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and on the other side of the window

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there is this big gray head with giant

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black eyes staring back at me out of the

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corner of the window I looked at it and

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I went oh [\h__\h] thank God my microphone

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was on mute right I fell back in my

422
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chair I immediately got up jumped up and

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what like it's only one and a half steps

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to the window all right looked out the

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window this thing was gone like

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completely gone yes all right

427
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and if it was a human I would have seen

428
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them go down my driveway and I didn't

429
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have a long driveway I would have seen

430
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them by my vehicle I would have seen

431
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them on my front yard or running away or

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going to the front of my house something

433
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in the meantime in my headphones harvey

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craft is yep yeah this is how I got into

435
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it knows nothing about what is going on

436
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right so I come back on or I text my

437
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wife first

438
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and I said alien at the window get in

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here now

440
00:19:19,890 --> 00:19:16,870
my wife is very empathic oh wow so she

441
00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:19,900
comes in and Harvey still chatting still

442
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chatting and she's putting her hands up

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and her hands immediately my wife always

444
00:19:29,580 --> 00:19:26,860
has cold hands and her hands are

445
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immediately burning totally picking up

446
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on the energy oh and and so she

447
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immediately runs to the kitchen grabs

448
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the sage and she's and the Palo Santo

449
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wood whew hallelujah

450
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you know and going from there yeah and

451
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yeah dang I have you is this the first

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kind of encounter or experience or weird

453
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that he was no no okay no so this is the

454
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first time you saw Carl that's the first

455
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time I saw Carl now Carl did come back

456
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okay it took two years October 27th 2017

457
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I was interviewing Olaf Phillips and we

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were talking secret space program mm-hmm

459
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and by the way you guys got to get all

460
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of Phillips on your show okay

461
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he's actually gonna come here tonight Oh

462
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awesome chance so make sure I introduce

463
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you guys be cool and what one of the

464
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great guys in this field and anyways oh

465
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love is is hanging out and and we're

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doing our thing on the show and all of a

467
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sudden like four people who've had the

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experience what happens to you is

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immediately you recognize the energy

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that follows with it so for instance you

471
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know ghost people they'll always know

472
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when a ghost is around and you're like

473
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how do you tell they'll be like I just

474
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know like the board they'll say I can

475
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feel it right okay and that's exactly

476
00:21:00,640 --> 00:20:57,950
what happens except with

477
00:21:03,660 --> 00:21:00,650
extraterrestrials yeah okay exact same

478
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thing so here I am broadcast is about

479
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11:35 Pacific time and we only got like

480
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25 minutes left in the show and all of a

481
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sudden I get hit with this energy and I

482
00:21:22,690 --> 00:21:18,770
know it's Carl don't words Carl and and

483
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so old lives chatting away I cut off off

484
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I said all of Carl's back you can hear

485
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this dude and he's like what I said

486
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Carl's back he's like was he at your

487
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window and I'm like no I can feel him he

488
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is here this is the first time I have

489
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felt him in two years he is here and so

490
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we end up you know talked about this the

491
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entire ship the rest of the show and I'm

492
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like I got a sign off I gotta go look

493
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for this right so I go outside and I

494
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have broadcasts on my home I got this

495
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beautiful studio I'm in my new house

496
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now nice and and you got to realize I I

497
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live about 250 miles from where my first

498
00:22:08,830 --> 00:22:04,340
incident with Carl happened oh whoa okay

499
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yeah so I go outside and I live on about

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a half acre and my driveway is about a

501
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quarter acre long and I got these big

502
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long tall like 60 70 80 foot trees in my

503
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front yard and then my driveway kind of

504
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goes flat and then it tears down a

505
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little bit and in the back of my house

506
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is my carport right and so I walk

507
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through my carport both my vehicles are

508
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parked outside of the carport facing my

509
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backyard

510
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and I watched these best way I could

511
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describe them these like Nike swooshes

512
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that are like in a yin and yang position

513
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okay okay float in between and about six

514
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feet in between my cars I've got all of

515
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on my cell phone and I'm telling him

516
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this and he's like are you gonna go over

517
00:23:00,250 --> 00:22:57,980
there I'm like yeah now

518
00:23:05,289 --> 00:23:00,260
you were a freighter oh absolutely my

519
00:23:08,049 --> 00:23:05,299
arson was about that but I had to yeah

520
00:23:09,850 --> 00:23:08,059
so I walk in between my I watched this

521
00:23:12,250 --> 00:23:09,860
orb as I'm starting to walk towards it

522
00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:12,260
this orb goes so from if what my cars

523
00:23:17,919 --> 00:23:15,110
are pulled in front facing this orb goes

524
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from rear end of the vehicles to the

525
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front and then came back and I was like

526
00:23:27,789 --> 00:23:25,039
okay I'm going up oh yeah I got a seat

527
00:23:29,230 --> 00:23:27,799
yeah so I walk through my carport and I

528
00:23:35,669 --> 00:23:29,240
go have a look and of course there's

529
00:23:36,940 --> 00:23:35,679
nothing there and but the energy is

530
00:23:44,830 --> 00:23:36,950
intense

531
00:23:47,980 --> 00:23:44,840
know saying oh love I gotta call my et

532
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:47,990
guy guy name to our Keith Andrews and I

533
00:23:51,460 --> 00:23:49,970
said I need to talk to him so I gotta

534
00:23:53,710 --> 00:23:51,470
let you go so he's like no problem just

535
00:23:56,220 --> 00:23:53,720
keep me in touch so I hang up with him

536
00:23:59,610 --> 00:23:56,230
and I'm starting to get scared

537
00:24:02,070 --> 00:23:59,620
okay cuz like rightfully so yeah this is

538
00:24:04,620 --> 00:24:02,080
just it's an uncomfortable feeling yeah

539
00:24:07,950 --> 00:24:04,630
so what I do is I go back in my house

540
00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:07,960
run upstairs and above my carport I have

541
00:24:14,669 --> 00:24:12,130
a patio and I go stand on my patio and I

542
00:24:17,669 --> 00:24:14,679
get Keith on the phone just happens a

543
00:24:21,690 --> 00:24:17,679
couple minutes late before I called just

544
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:21,700
happen to wake up for no reason now it's

545
00:24:29,700 --> 00:24:24,970
about 12:30 at night wakes up for no

546
00:24:32,580 --> 00:24:29,710
reason I said Keith Carl's back he's

547
00:24:35,070 --> 00:24:32,590
like really well pardon me

548
00:24:37,470 --> 00:24:35,080
I got a reverse that for a second so as

549
00:24:40,289 --> 00:24:37,480
I'm standing on my patio you remember

550
00:24:42,060 --> 00:24:40,299
the movie signs huh yeah remember where

551
00:24:44,970 --> 00:24:42,070
the kid crawls on top of the car with

552
00:24:45,389 --> 00:24:44,980
the with the the baby monitor and you

553
00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:45,399
sir

554
00:24:56,820 --> 00:24:49,120
uh-huh uh-huh yep so I start hearing in

555
00:24:59,100 --> 00:24:56,830
my yard up to my trees so I have this

556
00:25:03,330 --> 00:24:59,110
conversation I'm listening to this

557
00:25:08,220 --> 00:25:03,340
conversation of from my front yard into

558
00:25:10,860 --> 00:25:08,230
my back and they're talking whoa okay so

559
00:25:14,580 --> 00:25:10,870
I call up Heath down crap and bricks

560
00:25:17,879 --> 00:25:14,590
yeah okay yeah and I and I call up Keith

561
00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:17,889
of Mike Keith Carl's back and out of the

562
00:25:24,090 --> 00:25:21,760
blue he says okay I'm tuning in yeah I

563
00:25:26,970 --> 00:25:24,100
feel him there he's not alone he's got

564
00:25:31,049 --> 00:25:26,980
some buddies with him he goes just out

565
00:25:32,909 --> 00:25:31,059
of curiosity have you heard any sounds I

566
00:25:34,379 --> 00:25:32,919
didn't mention it Keith just out of the

567
00:25:36,090 --> 00:25:34,389
blue he says have you heard any sounds

568
00:25:39,060 --> 00:25:36,100
and I said well there's this

569
00:25:41,009 --> 00:25:39,070
conversation going on up and he goes

570
00:25:42,750 --> 00:25:41,019
does it sound more like this and he did

571
00:25:46,230 --> 00:25:42,760
something with his throat and I'm like

572
00:25:49,649 --> 00:25:46,240
that's it oh and he saw and as soon as I

573
00:25:54,299 --> 00:25:49,659
said that's it in my backyard it's right

574
00:25:57,360 --> 00:25:54,309
I'm like dude you totally got to be

575
00:25:59,850 --> 00:25:57,370
kidding it so here I am standing looking

576
00:26:04,830 --> 00:25:59,860
into my backyard and Keith is like can

577
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:04,840
you see them like no and he's like he

578
00:26:08,490 --> 00:26:07,090
goes look behind your tree keith has

579
00:26:10,770 --> 00:26:08,500
never been to my house

580
00:26:13,289 --> 00:26:10,780
he goes look behind your tree so I

581
00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:13,299
didn't of a okay and my cherry tree is

582
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:16,240
still quite full as its ready for winter

583
00:26:23,070 --> 00:26:18,850
to lose its leaves and everything and I

584
00:26:25,529 --> 00:26:23,080
still can't see anything right and he's

585
00:26:27,180 --> 00:26:25,539
like oh there there right then I look up

586
00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:27,190
my driveway and I'm trying to find the

587
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:30,400
tree where the other guy is right and

588
00:26:39,210 --> 00:26:31,570
you know you see things out of your

589
00:26:42,090 --> 00:26:39,220
corner your ioves movement and so this

590
00:26:43,470 --> 00:26:42,100
went on for about 20-25 minutes so

591
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:43,480
they're just playing hide-and-go-seek in

592
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:46,210
your yard but here's the thing I noticed

593
00:26:51,659 --> 00:26:48,250
cuz this is now the second time this has

594
00:26:54,450 --> 00:26:51,669
happened to me okay when they want to

595
00:26:57,870 --> 00:26:54,460
get away they call you to a different

596
00:27:00,090 --> 00:26:57,880
area so all of a sudden I had this urge

597
00:27:02,310 --> 00:27:00,100
to go down

598
00:27:04,950 --> 00:27:02,320
I got a lake about two miles from my

599
00:27:07,649 --> 00:27:04,960
house and it's got a pull in you know

600
00:27:10,830 --> 00:27:07,659
and and the message that I was getting

601
00:27:13,020 --> 00:27:10,840
was hey go there to go to the lake

602
00:27:15,390 --> 00:27:13,030
you're gonna see our craft you're going

603
00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:15,400
to see other aliens there get your ass

604
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:17,049
there now so me being the typical

605
00:27:20,820 --> 00:27:19,330
Canadian what I do is I'm a finger wall

606
00:27:22,230 --> 00:27:20,830
if I'm leaving my house at one o'clock

607
00:27:23,940 --> 00:27:22,240
in the morning I'm going to Tim Hortons

608
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:23,950
first right

609
00:27:35,190 --> 00:27:27,760
so I Drive ten minutes into town grab

610
00:27:38,070 --> 00:27:35,200
myself a doughnut but I can still feel

611
00:27:40,500 --> 00:27:38,080
the energy yeah and then I Drive past my

612
00:27:42,659 --> 00:27:40,510
house go to the lake to the to the

613
00:27:44,039 --> 00:27:42,669
parking area in the lake and of course

614
00:27:46,740 --> 00:27:44,049
I'm sitting there for like half an hour

615
00:27:48,810 --> 00:27:46,750
and there's nothing go back to my yard

616
00:27:53,310 --> 00:27:48,820
there's nothing so I think that's an

617
00:27:54,570 --> 00:27:53,320
escape mechanism right yeah and like I

618
00:27:56,970 --> 00:27:54,580
said that's the second time I've had

619
00:27:59,279 --> 00:27:56,980
that happen to me Wow but that's the

620
00:28:02,100 --> 00:27:59,289
legend of Carl Oh awesome man you just

621
00:28:03,299 --> 00:28:02,110
needed a name and and Carl's the first

622
00:28:05,580 --> 00:28:03,309
thing that popped into my head now

623
00:28:07,380 --> 00:28:05,590
psychically speaking I've heard from a

624
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:07,390
number of psychics who say that they

625
00:28:11,549 --> 00:28:09,610
have connected with him and I never

626
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:11,559
talked about this on air but they will

627
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:13,210
actually say that Carl really doesn't

628
00:28:25,260 --> 00:28:23,530
like the name Carl all the names you

629
00:28:27,510 --> 00:28:25,270
chose Carl so what is your what is your

630
00:28:33,060 --> 00:28:27,520
buddy say that the the sound is what

631
00:28:34,919 --> 00:28:33,070
does he Wow that's crazy yeah that's

632
00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:34,929
interesting because yeah the the aura

633
00:28:39,570 --> 00:28:37,600
usually it's it's tell telepathy yeah

634
00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:39,580
you hear about the the audio you never

635
00:28:42,750 --> 00:28:41,230
really hear about like what they sound

636
00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:42,760
audible II well don't forget there's

637
00:28:52,590 --> 00:28:49,360
different species so yeah I mean am I

638
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:52,600
happy about it absolutely yeah that's

639
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:54,850
incredible man yeah it's a cool I mean

640
00:29:00,600 --> 00:28:58,210
you know but here's the thing guys a lot

641
00:29:02,419 --> 00:29:00,610
of people don't believe that story

642
00:29:06,389 --> 00:29:02,429
number one because I'm in the media

643
00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:06,399
number two because there is no proof

644
00:29:14,250 --> 00:29:11,200
right okay there is no photographs there

645
00:29:16,260 --> 00:29:14,260
is no audio recording there is no video

646
00:29:18,149 --> 00:29:16,270
recording there's nothing and the first

647
00:29:20,340 --> 00:29:18,159
question I always get asked by people is

648
00:29:24,750 --> 00:29:20,350
well you have an iPhone why didn't you

649
00:29:26,850 --> 00:29:24,760
just record it and I mean talk about my

650
00:29:30,659 --> 00:29:26,860
experiences I don't think I brag about

651
00:29:32,549 --> 00:29:30,669
them I talk about them and I want people

652
00:29:35,610 --> 00:29:32,559
to take me seriously but you got to

653
00:29:38,130 --> 00:29:35,620
trust my word right my experiences for

654
00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:38,140
me have been for me I am NOT a

655
00:29:47,639 --> 00:29:43,120
researcher okay I don't care about going

656
00:29:50,639 --> 00:29:47,649
into the going into a field or on a UFO

657
00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:50,649
watch or into a paranormal investigation

658
00:29:56,279 --> 00:29:53,200
or the forest looking for Bigfoot I

659
00:29:58,289 --> 00:29:56,289
don't care about carrying a camera right

660
00:30:00,630 --> 00:29:58,299
I am there for myself

661
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:00,640
it sounds very selfish but I'm not a

662
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:03,370
researcher I'm an experiencer who just

663
00:30:09,180 --> 00:30:06,490
wants to take it all in absolutely don't

664
00:30:11,820 --> 00:30:09,190
need the photo because I already know

665
00:30:13,529 --> 00:30:11,830
what happened I don't need I mean is it

666
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:13,539
nice like there's been times yeah where

667
00:30:17,220 --> 00:30:15,130
I said dammit I wish I would have taken

668
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:17,230
a picture of it right right but also in

669
00:30:20,730 --> 00:30:18,850
the moment I mean it's kind of the last

670
00:30:23,310 --> 00:30:20,740
thing you're thinking about your phone

671
00:30:25,210 --> 00:30:23,320
yeah oh the moment you look down it

672
00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:25,220
could be gone when you look back

673
00:30:29,230 --> 00:30:27,049
you're wasting time by fiddling with

674
00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:29,240
your phone yeah and you're so you know

675
00:30:33,010 --> 00:30:31,039
absorbed with what's happening and

676
00:30:35,260 --> 00:30:33,020
you're probably so shaken by adrenaline

677
00:30:38,549 --> 00:30:35,270
you you would get a brewery photo anyway

678
00:30:42,310 --> 00:30:38,559
you know knowing about your shitty photo

679
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:42,320
you can't win I just I just let it I

680
00:30:46,210 --> 00:30:44,570
just want it for being yeah absolutely

681
00:30:48,970 --> 00:30:46,220
you know and I don't think there is

682
00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:48,980
anything wrong with that you know a lot

683
00:30:53,860 --> 00:30:50,720
of people in this field have problems

684
00:30:55,870 --> 00:30:53,870
with it I don't you know I still want to

685
00:30:57,610 --> 00:30:55,880
be old school where I can trust

686
00:31:00,669 --> 00:30:57,620
someone's word that they're not gonna

687
00:31:03,070 --> 00:31:00,679
[\h__\h] me yeah I'm not gonna BS you

688
00:31:05,380 --> 00:31:03,080
guys on my story I'm not gonna BS your

689
00:31:08,340 --> 00:31:05,390
audience I'm not gonna BS my audience

690
00:31:11,470 --> 00:31:08,350
right my audience continues to grow and

691
00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:11,480
I think that's because they feel I am a

692
00:31:17,470 --> 00:31:15,049
voice of reason that they can trust and

693
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:17,480
as long as you don't break that code and

694
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:20,330
break that trust people are going to

695
00:31:24,460 --> 00:31:22,850
take your word and it's not about trying

696
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:24,470
to steer people in a different direction

697
00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:27,890
or or make them think like you are

698
00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:30,289
thinking it's about just being honest

699
00:31:36,070 --> 00:31:33,049
like what's wrong with just being honest

700
00:31:39,159 --> 00:31:36,080
right Yeah right in this field is filled

701
00:31:42,010 --> 00:31:39,169
with dishonesty because people want that

702
00:31:44,620 --> 00:31:42,020
15 minutes of fame right they want their

703
00:31:47,740 --> 00:31:44,630
story told oh did you hear about Joe

704
00:31:55,390 --> 00:31:47,750
Smith who you know had four alien

705
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:55,400
implants up his ass but there is all of

706
00:31:59,440 --> 00:31:57,530
these people out there you know in

707
00:32:01,320 --> 00:31:59,450
research land we have all of these

708
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:01,330
people who say they're conducting

709
00:32:08,890 --> 00:32:05,289
scientific experimentation when really

710
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:08,900
they're only conducting opinion the

711
00:32:12,970 --> 00:32:11,450
prove or disprove their opinion yeah and

712
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:12,980
you know that they haven't done anything

713
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:15,010
scientific since high school

714
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:17,450
paranormal is the exact same way like I

715
00:32:24,460 --> 00:32:21,650
literally stop I literally like when I

716
00:32:26,529 --> 00:32:24,470
bring on a paranormal team now to talk

717
00:32:28,450 --> 00:32:26,539
about ghosts or whatever I will

718
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:28,460
literally say to them if you use the

719
00:32:34,740 --> 00:32:31,250
word silent science our interview is

720
00:32:37,180 --> 00:32:34,750
over because nothing you do is

721
00:32:38,190 --> 00:32:37,190
scientifically yeah

722
00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:38,200
nothing

723
00:32:44,009 --> 00:32:41,769
no laboratory you have no control using

724
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:44,019
technology is not scientific right

725
00:32:49,799 --> 00:32:45,850
you're just a camera crew there's a

726
00:32:51,869 --> 00:32:49,809
difference exactly and and you know when

727
00:32:55,499 --> 00:32:51,879
I've been blessed enough guys where I

728
00:32:56,999 --> 00:32:55,509
have people that I can talk to who have

729
00:33:00,359 --> 00:32:57,009
scientific background dude

730
00:33:03,090 --> 00:33:00,369
I was the dumbest guy in science it just

731
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:03,100
never clicked in for me right right so

732
00:33:07,769 --> 00:33:05,529
I'm lucky enough where I have been able

733
00:33:10,859 --> 00:33:07,779
to develop relationships with real

734
00:33:12,810 --> 00:33:10,869
scientists with PhDs with doctorates who

735
00:33:14,999 --> 00:33:12,820
I can go to them at any time and say hey

736
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:15,009
what do you think of this right how does

737
00:33:18,739 --> 00:33:15,850
this work

738
00:33:21,930 --> 00:33:18,749
yeah and that's where I get my my

739
00:33:23,700 --> 00:33:21,940
information from whereas if you look at

740
00:33:24,989 --> 00:33:23,710
the investigation between people lying

741
00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:24,999
about science when they're conducting

742
00:33:29,310 --> 00:33:27,129
opinion when you look at all these

743
00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:29,320
people out there who are saying they're

744
00:33:34,590 --> 00:33:31,600
they're journalists or investigative

745
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:34,600
journalists but they've never worked for

746
00:33:38,909 --> 00:33:36,850
a news outlet or done anything freelance

747
00:33:41,820 --> 00:33:38,919
you know I'm sorry people you may not

748
00:33:45,570 --> 00:33:41,830
like this but writing a blog or doing a

749
00:33:48,779 --> 00:33:45,580
vlog on YouTube is not journalism mm-hmm

750
00:33:50,580 --> 00:33:48,789
okay learn the craft but everybody is

751
00:33:52,619 --> 00:33:50,590
looking for that upper hand so they can

752
00:33:54,979 --> 00:33:52,629
speak at a conference get that

753
00:33:58,409 --> 00:33:54,989
appearance on a television show or a

754
00:34:01,080 --> 00:33:58,419
documentary or a movie or write a book

755
00:34:03,090 --> 00:34:01,090
or something along those lines because

756
00:34:05,249 --> 00:34:03,100
the unfortunate part about this business

757
00:34:08,129 --> 00:34:05,259
there is no education there is no

758
00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:08,139
training and yeah absolutely there's

759
00:34:11,879 --> 00:34:10,240
definitely not I mean I feel like

760
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:11,889
there's a big difference between a UFO

761
00:34:16,020 --> 00:34:14,169
researcher and a UFO enthusiast I think

762
00:34:18,450 --> 00:34:16,030
you had you had touched on that a little

763
00:34:20,190 --> 00:34:18,460
bit and yes talk as well I could really

764
00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:20,200
appreciate that because we were kind of

765
00:34:26,190 --> 00:34:23,609
in the same kind of conversation like oh

766
00:34:28,980 --> 00:34:26,200
we have a podcast but we're not really

767
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:28,990
we're like desk chair we read stuff and

768
00:34:35,700 --> 00:34:31,530
do these people's stories right

769
00:34:37,589 --> 00:34:35,710
researchers I don't know about we're

770
00:34:40,319 --> 00:34:37,599
just two dudes interested in the sub

771
00:34:41,789 --> 00:34:40,329
yeah and we like to talk about it you've

772
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:41,799
got a good you got to get a better beard

773
00:34:48,010 --> 00:34:45,490
man yeah you got to get a better

774
00:34:49,810 --> 00:34:48,020
he says his looks more like a like a

775
00:34:55,210 --> 00:34:49,820
brillo pad if he grows it out yeah you

776
00:34:57,700 --> 00:34:55,220
can see no but you're right and and the

777
00:34:59,350 --> 00:34:57,710
problem is and it was funny because I

778
00:35:02,050 --> 00:34:59,360
was just talking to Kevin Dean Chris

779
00:35:05,230 --> 00:35:02,060
Bledsoe about this we have to as a

780
00:35:07,390 --> 00:35:05,240
community stop bullshitting each other I

781
00:35:09,700 --> 00:35:07,400
hope I can say that yeah absolutely we

782
00:35:12,700 --> 00:35:09,710
need to stop bullshitting each other

783
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:12,710
stop trying to raise your own profile by

784
00:35:17,470 --> 00:35:15,770
lying about your resume because like I

785
00:35:19,750 --> 00:35:17,480
say with a lot of the and I'm gonna take

786
00:35:22,510 --> 00:35:19,760
it from a journalism standpoint okay I

787
00:35:24,580 --> 00:35:22,520
can prove my kindred n shalls' I'm I

788
00:35:27,490 --> 00:35:24,590
tell you what's radio stations I worked

789
00:35:29,830 --> 00:35:27,500
at you could go online and look those up

790
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:29,840
I mean held just a couple weeks ago I

791
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:32,930
had the Dean of broadcast journalism the

792
00:35:39,670 --> 00:35:35,570
Dean that I had underneath or above me

793
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:39,680
okay on my show as a guest right so I

794
00:35:43,930 --> 00:35:41,810
can prove that yeah and I worked in the

795
00:35:46,540 --> 00:35:43,940
field worked in the industry you know

796
00:35:48,340 --> 00:35:46,550
but a lot for anybody out there watching

797
00:35:50,099 --> 00:35:48,350
this whether you're you're you're a

798
00:35:52,180 --> 00:35:50,109
writer and you're calling yourself an

799
00:35:54,099 --> 00:35:52,190
investigative journalist but you have no

800
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:54,109
journalism if you're calling yourself a

801
00:35:58,690 --> 00:35:55,520
scientist look at that Michael shraddh

802
00:36:06,099 --> 00:35:58,700
Michael shraddh I am totally fangirling

803
00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:06,109
right now Michael shred I know you can't

804
00:36:13,630 --> 00:36:08,240
see him on camera Michael Pratt in my

805
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:13,640
opinion is the number one aircraft UFO

806
00:36:19,450 --> 00:36:16,730
historian out there the number one and

807
00:36:19,990 --> 00:36:19,460
we are so blessed to have a gentleman

808
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:20,000
like this

809
00:36:26,859 --> 00:36:22,490
I totally fangirl all over him like I I

810
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:26,869
get like honestly you are one of the

811
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:29,570
best and and you know the the the fact

812
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:30,890
that we actually get to be in your

813
00:36:37,060 --> 00:36:34,210
presence with your hard work honestly

814
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:37,070
know that that's just being way too

815
00:36:40,780 --> 00:36:38,690
honest and candid there that's the

816
00:36:43,330 --> 00:36:40,790
research thank you Michael

817
00:36:47,140 --> 00:36:43,340
I love Michael strap yeah anybody has

818
00:36:51,370 --> 00:36:47,150
the has the chance to go on YouTube

819
00:36:53,260 --> 00:36:51,380
Michael shraddh sch our ATT please do

820
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:53,270
yourself a favor he's got some great

821
00:37:01,960 --> 00:36:54,410
stand look

822
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:01,970
him up he is like like Goodall has had

823
00:37:05,470 --> 00:37:03,770
nothing but awesome stuff to say about

824
00:37:07,299 --> 00:37:05,480
it what was I saying before oh yeah but

825
00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:07,309
about I think it was about the research

826
00:37:12,910 --> 00:37:10,609
yeah yeah just okay you know be yourself

827
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:12,920
like if you're out there stop lying

828
00:37:16,510 --> 00:37:14,930
about your credentials stop lying about

829
00:37:18,099 --> 00:37:16,520
what you're doing or what you're looking

830
00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:18,109
for stop saying you're conducting

831
00:37:22,180 --> 00:37:20,720
scientific experimentation when you

832
00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:22,190
haven't conducted a scientific

833
00:37:29,470 --> 00:37:26,510
experiment since grade 10 okay get back

834
00:37:31,029 --> 00:37:29,480
to being yourself because here's the

835
00:37:33,549 --> 00:37:31,039
thing ladies and gentlemen that every

836
00:37:36,549 --> 00:37:33,559
mostly everybody forgets in this field

837
00:37:38,109 --> 00:37:36,559
except the upper echelons people in that

838
00:37:41,049 --> 00:37:38,119
upper echelon that we all want to try

839
00:37:45,789 --> 00:37:41,059
and strive to be like okay and that is

840
00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:45,799
this do yourself a favor and just be

841
00:37:52,089 --> 00:37:49,730
honest because if we can't or pardon me

842
00:37:55,059 --> 00:37:52,099
if you are willing to lie about your

843
00:37:57,370 --> 00:37:55,069
credentials and lie about what you do

844
00:38:00,789 --> 00:37:57,380
because you've convinced yourself this

845
00:38:04,420 --> 00:38:00,799
is the way to go we cannot trust your

846
00:38:05,859 --> 00:38:04,430
research so for those out there once

847
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:05,869
again because of a journalist I'll pick

848
00:38:09,779 --> 00:38:07,609
I'll pick on the journalism crowd out

849
00:38:12,250 --> 00:38:09,789
there or the fake journalism right on

850
00:38:13,630 --> 00:38:12,260
all right for those out there who are

851
00:38:17,339 --> 00:38:13,640
putting on their resume that they're a

852
00:38:23,079 --> 00:38:17,349
journalist but they they're not okay

853
00:38:26,799 --> 00:38:23,089
stop right how can we trust your word

854
00:38:29,019 --> 00:38:26,809
your research anything that you write if

855
00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:29,029
you are willing to lie about your

856
00:38:36,309 --> 00:38:32,960
credentials and that's what kills this

857
00:38:39,220 --> 00:38:36,319
field guys you talk to anybody in the

858
00:38:41,589 --> 00:38:39,230
upper echelon of researchers they will

859
00:38:43,779 --> 00:38:41,599
tell you that yeah okay whether it's

860
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:43,789
good day whether it's Kevin day whether

861
00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:46,250
it's it's Michael shred whether it's

862
00:38:51,670 --> 00:38:48,079
grant Cameron Richard Dolan

863
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:51,680
Lorien Fenton many others there's a huge

864
00:38:59,760 --> 00:38:53,890
list right right

865
00:39:02,730 --> 00:38:59,770
excuse me blame my son for the cold but

866
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:02,740
but that is something that we all need

867
00:39:07,770 --> 00:39:04,690
to strive for yeah and the problem that

868
00:39:10,260 --> 00:39:07,780
we have in this community is we have too

869
00:39:13,410 --> 00:39:10,270
many people saying yeah but she's a nice

870
00:39:15,210 --> 00:39:13,420
person yeah but he's a nice guy yeah but

871
00:39:16,220 --> 00:39:15,220
that person is really really

872
00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:16,230
good-looking

873
00:39:21,510 --> 00:39:18,880
yeah whatever it may be there's always a

874
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:21,520
yeah but let's stop the abbot's

875
00:39:25,710 --> 00:39:23,290
everybody always talks about how do we

876
00:39:28,590 --> 00:39:25,720
fix this community how do we clean up

877
00:39:31,860 --> 00:39:28,600
this community it's real simple stop

878
00:39:34,050 --> 00:39:31,870
supporting those who are lying about

879
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:34,060
their credentials doesn't matter what

880
00:39:40,860 --> 00:39:37,890
field whether it's UFOs Bigfoot dog man

881
00:39:44,340 --> 00:39:40,870
psychic and tension yeah paranormal

882
00:39:46,890 --> 00:39:44,350
ghosts does not matter guys the formula

883
00:39:49,230 --> 00:39:46,900
works the same you know every area of

884
00:39:52,350 --> 00:39:49,240
research and when we stop supporting

885
00:39:56,910 --> 00:39:52,360
those whether they have a podcast a blog

886
00:39:59,880 --> 00:39:56,920
a television show a conference when we

887
00:40:01,800 --> 00:39:59,890
stop supporting those people we're all

888
00:40:04,410 --> 00:40:01,810
going to be better off and for you guys

889
00:40:06,540 --> 00:40:04,420
being new in this field you know sure

890
00:40:09,180 --> 00:40:06,550
some of the names are enticing they're

891
00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:09,190
exciting but when you look at their

892
00:40:12,510 --> 00:40:10,510
credentials it's probably something

893
00:40:15,060 --> 00:40:12,520
you've never thought of when you look at

894
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:15,070
their credentials say look okay this guy

895
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:16,720
says he's a scientist where did he go to

896
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:20,050
school right right now if he says I'm an

897
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:23,410
amateur scientist we're all amateurs at

898
00:40:29,010 --> 00:40:26,530
something right and if he says I am a

899
00:40:31,710 --> 00:40:29,020
scientist where'd you go to school

900
00:40:34,530 --> 00:40:31,720
where'd you get your degree Yeah right

901
00:40:35,010 --> 00:40:34,540
if they say they're a journalist where

902
00:40:37,770 --> 00:40:35,020
did he work

903
00:40:40,650 --> 00:40:37,780
yeah because writing a little blog or

904
00:40:43,710 --> 00:40:40,660
vlog is not journalism for some internet

905
00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:43,720
UFO website or Bigfoot site or

906
00:40:49,050 --> 00:40:45,760
paranormal say that's not journalism you

907
00:40:51,030 --> 00:40:49,060
have no clue what beat did he work yeah

908
00:40:53,010 --> 00:40:51,040
just try and keep the routine tagged

909
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:53,020
together sometimes that's a great word

910
00:40:58,260 --> 00:40:55,930
yeah he protects the integrity I mean if

911
00:41:00,120 --> 00:40:58,270
you have integrity and you suck you know

912
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:00,130
like that's cool at least you're honest

913
00:41:02,970 --> 00:41:01,450
yeah I know what I'm saying

914
00:41:05,310 --> 00:41:02,980
yeah and people would probably respect

915
00:41:06,780 --> 00:41:05,320
that a lot more yeah absolutely

916
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:06,790
and I also want to preface this because

917
00:41:10,530 --> 00:41:08,650
it's the Canadian in me I don't want

918
00:41:12,650 --> 00:41:10,540
people to think that you know I'm trying

919
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:12,660
to put myself for my show on a pedestal

920
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:15,250
above and beyond everybody else's or

921
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:17,770
what I am is a journalist above them and

922
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:19,330
beyond everybody else that isn't the

923
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:19,810
case

924
00:41:25,410 --> 00:41:23,290
I just want clean research when I bring

925
00:41:27,570 --> 00:41:25,420
somebody on my show I want it to be

926
00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:27,580
clean I want it to be true I want it to

927
00:41:31,650 --> 00:41:29,200
be trusted I don't care what road it

928
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:31,660
goes down right all right

929
00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:33,370
that doesn't matter I want to know where

930
00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:35,110
your research goes but I want to know

931
00:41:38,730 --> 00:41:36,640
that your research is prevalent because

932
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:38,740
you've been honest with your credentials

933
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:42,250
yeah yeah yeah that's great I love that

934
00:41:46,380 --> 00:41:44,050
man yeah definitely you got it you got

935
00:41:49,290 --> 00:41:46,390
to keep it like you said keep it clean

936
00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:49,300
and keep it you know honest you know

937
00:41:54,060 --> 00:41:51,730
honesty is is gonna get you you know a

938
00:41:56,010 --> 00:41:54,070
lot further you know because I mean

939
00:41:59,700 --> 00:41:56,020
especially in this community like you

940
00:42:01,680 --> 00:41:59,710
said there is a lot of I guess hacks for

941
00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:01,690
lack of a better word but at the same

942
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:03,250
time you know you start to see that

943
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:06,490
those people also really get exposed and

944
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:08,170
you know you kind of make like one

945
00:42:13,410 --> 00:42:11,650
little mistake and that's it yeah people

946
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:13,420
turn on you I feel like some sometimes

947
00:42:16,410 --> 00:42:15,490
it's like you turn on that afterburner

948
00:42:18,180 --> 00:42:16,420
some people that don't have the

949
00:42:20,100 --> 00:42:18,190
credentials and then they get famous for

950
00:42:21,930 --> 00:42:20,110
something like you know I think we both

951
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:21,940
know who we're talking about yeah the

952
00:42:25,110 --> 00:42:23,530
quarry good thing you know I think

953
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:25,120
there's a lot of controversy controversy

954
00:42:31,860 --> 00:42:26,890
era there's there's more than just

955
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:31,870
quarry good guy one person out there

956
00:42:36,810 --> 00:42:34,450
right now claims to be an investigative

957
00:42:39,330 --> 00:42:36,820
journalist and he went on Twitter

958
00:42:41,010 --> 00:42:39,340
slamming somebody yeah this guy doesn't

959
00:42:44,670 --> 00:42:41,020
think I'm a journalist I and I went on

960
00:42:47,820 --> 00:42:44,680
there and I said you're not right I said

961
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:47,830
you're not I said if you are I said tell

962
00:42:53,490 --> 00:42:50,110
me what what station did you work at

963
00:42:55,310 --> 00:42:53,500
what paper did you write for what's your

964
00:42:57,240 --> 00:42:55,320
credentials where did you go to school

965
00:43:00,480 --> 00:42:57,250
what's your background

966
00:43:04,770 --> 00:43:00,490
I could provide mine what's yours shut

967
00:43:07,890 --> 00:43:04,780
him right up right yeah yeah shut him

968
00:43:09,780 --> 00:43:07,900
right now but so doing this whole radio

969
00:43:12,450 --> 00:43:09,790
thing man I know that you you know you

970
00:43:13,410 --> 00:43:12,460
were the journalist you put in your time

971
00:43:16,140 --> 00:43:13,420
you did your thing

972
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:16,150
what kind of branched out like what what

973
00:43:20,049 --> 00:43:18,650
made you branch out into like the

974
00:43:21,730 --> 00:43:20,059
you know the UFO phenomenon the

975
00:43:24,279 --> 00:43:21,740
paranormal was it because of our

976
00:43:25,420 --> 00:43:24,289
experiences or is it you know just

977
00:43:29,009 --> 00:43:25,430
something you were interested in and

978
00:43:33,339 --> 00:43:29,019
then the experience started to happen no

979
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:33,349
when I was started my experiences my

980
00:43:38,259 --> 00:43:36,410
experiences started heavily in December

981
00:43:40,299 --> 00:43:38,269
of 2011 uh-huh

982
00:43:43,839 --> 00:43:40,309
and I didn't start spaced out radio

983
00:43:48,730 --> 00:43:43,849
until November 30th 2014 so literally

984
00:43:52,779 --> 00:43:48,740
three years I was going on the Internet

985
00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:52,789
try watching every ghost show UFO show

986
00:43:59,620 --> 00:43:56,089
Bigfoot show any documentary I could

987
00:44:01,120 --> 00:43:59,630
find on cable to try and figure out what

988
00:44:03,789 --> 00:44:01,130
was going on with me I was going to the

989
00:44:05,470 --> 00:44:03,799
bookstores trying to find anything okay

990
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:05,480
like when I had my Bigfoot experience

991
00:44:10,390 --> 00:44:07,970
you know trying to figure out what

992
00:44:12,579 --> 00:44:10,400
happened there all right and was this

993
00:44:14,140 --> 00:44:12,589
what other people were seeing and UFOs

994
00:44:18,430 --> 00:44:14,150
like when I had a black triangle

995
00:44:21,609 --> 00:44:18,440
hovering over my house okay it's entire

996
00:44:23,589 --> 00:44:21,619
undercarriage was lit up it wasn't just

997
00:44:26,319 --> 00:44:23,599
like three balls yeah I see on every

998
00:44:31,269 --> 00:44:26,329
photo yeah so there were similarities

999
00:44:34,329 --> 00:44:31,279
that I was finding online but no it was

1000
00:44:37,359 --> 00:44:34,339
never quite enough to say that's my

1001
00:44:39,359 --> 00:44:37,369
experience yeah and so my good friend

1002
00:44:41,950 --> 00:44:39,369
Johnny Enoch

1003
00:44:43,420 --> 00:44:41,960
came up and he's like dude we got to get

1004
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:43,430
you back on the radio and I'm like no

1005
00:44:49,029 --> 00:44:45,650
dude I'm not going back on the radio you

1006
00:44:50,410 --> 00:44:49,039
know not doing that and he's like but

1007
00:44:52,359 --> 00:44:50,420
the more I thought about it the more he

1008
00:44:55,289 --> 00:44:52,369
pressed the more I thought you know what

1009
00:44:57,910 --> 00:44:55,299
this is a good way for me selfishly to

1010
00:45:00,099 --> 00:44:57,920
try and get answers to what I'm seeing

1011
00:45:01,779 --> 00:45:00,109
because I could ask questions like have

1012
00:45:04,930 --> 00:45:01,789
you ever seen a black triangle that's

1013
00:45:07,989 --> 00:45:04,940
all lit up right right right right

1014
00:45:09,489 --> 00:45:07,999
dang that's super fun it sounds like

1015
00:45:11,470 --> 00:45:09,499
really fun trying to get to the bottom

1016
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:11,480
of it and yeah that's that's the best

1017
00:45:16,059 --> 00:45:13,970
part about what we do is trying to get

1018
00:45:17,470 --> 00:45:16,069
those answers you know it just didn't

1019
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:17,480
talk to people and hear their stories

1020
00:45:22,299 --> 00:45:20,210
you know connecting the similarities

1021
00:45:23,620 --> 00:45:22,309
finding the differences you know it's

1022
00:45:25,989 --> 00:45:23,630
like wow that's story sounds very

1023
00:45:28,390 --> 00:45:25,999
similar but this one huge difference is

1024
00:45:30,380 --> 00:45:28,400
very interesting you know and and that's

1025
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:30,390
that's super cool I love that yeah

1026
00:45:34,580 --> 00:45:32,010
I think you hit it right on the head

1027
00:45:36,980 --> 00:45:34,590
there we're all there's always that one

1028
00:45:39,980 --> 00:45:36,990
big difference yeah nothing is ever the

1029
00:45:41,810 --> 00:45:39,990
same so like for instance the the ETS

1030
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:41,820
that I have seen people have seen

1031
00:45:47,150 --> 00:45:44,130
something similar but they haven't seen

1032
00:45:48,740 --> 00:45:47,160
what I have seen right right right

1033
00:45:51,050 --> 00:45:48,750
and that's that's what I don't

1034
00:45:52,970 --> 00:45:51,060
understand that's the thrill of trying

1035
00:45:53,570 --> 00:45:52,980
to figure out what is going on yeah

1036
00:45:55,630 --> 00:45:53,580
right

1037
00:45:59,330 --> 00:45:55,640
and this is why we can't shoot down

1038
00:46:03,110 --> 00:45:59,340
people's experiences right it's too easy

1039
00:46:05,570 --> 00:46:03,120
to try and debunk somebody because how

1040
00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:05,580
do we debunk in the paranormal I don't

1041
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:07,920
believe you yeah that's all you have to

1042
00:46:14,030 --> 00:46:11,090
do it is easy you're exactly right

1043
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:14,040
exactly right yeah

1044
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:15,810
and it's it's kind of it's kind of nice

1045
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:18,450
to see that there's a lot of people who

1046
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:20,400
still do that but it really seems like

1047
00:46:23,810 --> 00:46:22,170
the tightest train is starting to change

1048
00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:23,820
and it's kind of like alright so there's

1049
00:46:28,580 --> 00:46:25,110
all these people are having these

1050
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:28,590
experiences and what point are all these

1051
00:46:32,900 --> 00:46:31,290
people officially crazy or lying you

1052
00:46:35,720 --> 00:46:32,910
know and it's kind of hard to you know

1053
00:46:38,060 --> 00:46:35,730
discount that it's like well there's a

1054
00:46:40,910 --> 00:46:38,070
lot there's a whole lot and they can't

1055
00:46:42,740 --> 00:46:40,920
all be okay we always want to put people

1056
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:42,750
down in the Internet age we don't want

1057
00:46:47,540 --> 00:46:45,330
to take people's word anymore mm-hmm you

1058
00:46:49,870 --> 00:46:47,550
know especially with social media what's

1059
00:46:53,450 --> 00:46:49,880
wrong with changing that focus and

1060
00:46:55,930 --> 00:46:53,460
believing it why are we not allowed to

1061
00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:55,940
do that guys yeah absolutely right

1062
00:46:59,600 --> 00:46:58,290
what's wrong was saying to somebody and

1063
00:47:01,970 --> 00:46:59,610
looking them in the eye because they've

1064
00:47:04,130 --> 00:47:01,980
had something traumatic happen and they

1065
00:47:06,500 --> 00:47:04,140
feel the need that they need to reach

1066
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:06,510
out to you and tell you their story yeah

1067
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:08,730
what's wrong with being able to say to

1068
00:47:13,700 --> 00:47:09,570
that person

1069
00:47:15,170 --> 00:47:13,710
I believe you yeah all right it's like

1070
00:47:17,420 --> 00:47:15,180
walking up you know and I'm not trying

1071
00:47:19,850 --> 00:47:17,430
to be all profound here okay but it's

1072
00:47:21,730 --> 00:47:19,860
like walking up to a stranger on a

1073
00:47:24,170 --> 00:47:21,740
sidewalk and just saying good morning

1074
00:47:27,590 --> 00:47:24,180
maybe that says maybe they've had a

1075
00:47:29,660 --> 00:47:27,600
shitty day yeah maybe you know that that

1076
00:47:32,150 --> 00:47:29,670
woman that you that you just said good

1077
00:47:34,370 --> 00:47:32,160
morning to you know maybe her child just

1078
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:34,380
died in hospital or her husband left her

1079
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:36,330
for another woman and now and she's

1080
00:47:41,240 --> 00:47:38,970
homeless ever like you just don't know

1081
00:47:43,730 --> 00:47:41,250
what a person is going through yeah and

1082
00:47:45,950 --> 00:47:43,740
and and I realize it sounds like it

1083
00:47:48,550 --> 00:47:45,960
extreme example but when it comes to

1084
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:48,560
this field it's very similar because

1085
00:47:53,210 --> 00:47:51,210
there's a lot of people out there who

1086
00:47:55,820 --> 00:47:53,220
work who are do you know committing

1087
00:47:57,830 --> 00:47:55,830
suicide losing friends absolutely are

1088
00:48:00,770 --> 00:47:57,840
you know because they don't want the et

1089
00:48:04,070 --> 00:48:00,780
content to continue mm-hmm I have two

1090
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:04,080
listeners that I know of that literally

1091
00:48:09,350 --> 00:48:07,650
were about to commit suicide until they

1092
00:48:12,260 --> 00:48:09,360
heard the show to learn that they

1093
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:12,270
weren't alone Wow and they reached out

1094
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:14,610
to me and literally it brought tears to

1095
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:17,490
my eyes yeah powerful stuff right not

1096
00:48:20,660 --> 00:48:18,930
you know because you don't when you're

1097
00:48:22,940 --> 00:48:20,670
when you're putting on a nightly show

1098
00:48:24,140 --> 00:48:22,950
you don't think about that mm-hmm

1099
00:48:26,330 --> 00:48:24,150
you really don't all you're thinking

1100
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:26,340
about is okay what can I get out of my

1101
00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:28,770
guess you're not realizing the impact

1102
00:48:35,060 --> 00:48:32,250
you're having on your listener and when

1103
00:48:37,130 --> 00:48:35,070
you realize that they have they have a

1104
00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:37,140
bond with you and they've they trust

1105
00:48:40,790 --> 00:48:38,640
your word and that you're not gonna lead

1106
00:48:43,609 --> 00:48:40,800
them astray mm-hmm and then you tell

1107
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:43,619
them that you believe them it's very

1108
00:48:48,620 --> 00:48:46,170
powerful yeah you know yes and what's

1109
00:48:51,050 --> 00:48:48,630
wrong with believing people just because

1110
00:48:53,060 --> 00:48:51,060
your research doesn't show or your

1111
00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:53,070
photographs don't match up or your video

1112
00:48:59,300 --> 00:48:55,250
doesn't match up who cares

1113
00:49:02,540 --> 00:48:59,310
absolutely yep yeah we've recently

1114
00:49:04,250 --> 00:49:02,550
started to kind of find that out

1115
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:04,260
ourselves like that connection that you

1116
00:49:08,030 --> 00:49:06,450
have between the listeners and what it

1117
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:08,040
is that you're doing you know we get

1118
00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:10,290
like these awesome like you know just

1119
00:49:14,570 --> 00:49:12,480
letters and and and messages and it's

1120
00:49:16,370 --> 00:49:14,580
like wow that's really awesome that you

1121
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:16,380
were able to like connect with somebody

1122
00:49:21,170 --> 00:49:19,410
on that level for them to care enough to

1123
00:49:23,060 --> 00:49:21,180
reach out to you and talk to you

1124
00:49:25,490 --> 00:49:23,070
absolutely but what did it cost you

1125
00:49:28,270 --> 00:49:25,500
nothing man just a couple minutes of our

1126
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:28,280
time of stuff that we enjoy doing

1127
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:31,050
yeah it's really been fun it's to see

1128
00:49:35,300 --> 00:49:33,450
that grow like yeah it's part of but it

1129
00:49:36,980 --> 00:49:35,310
didn't cost you anything to be human

1130
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:36,990
yeah yeah absolutely

1131
00:49:41,390 --> 00:49:39,090
yeah there are people out there guys

1132
00:49:43,220 --> 00:49:41,400
whether they're at this conference or

1133
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:43,230
whether they are just sitting at home

1134
00:49:48,050 --> 00:49:45,890
because they've had some horrible alien

1135
00:49:49,970 --> 00:49:48,060
experiences and they're afraid of the

1136
00:49:52,490 --> 00:49:49,980
world okay

1137
00:49:55,340 --> 00:49:52,500
yeah that's wrong with telling them I

1138
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:55,350
believe you this may have caught dice uh

1139
00:50:00,650 --> 00:49:56,370
I think

1140
00:50:02,210 --> 00:50:00,660
I'm a pretty good guy sorry about that

1141
00:50:06,830 --> 00:50:02,220
yeah not trying to scare you with my

1142
00:50:09,410 --> 00:50:06,840
cough oh no I worry about but what what

1143
00:50:11,750 --> 00:50:09,420
is wrong with telling someone that you

1144
00:50:13,130 --> 00:50:11,760
believe them what is wrong with saying

1145
00:50:15,710 --> 00:50:13,140
you know what I don't think you're

1146
00:50:18,110 --> 00:50:15,720
psycho I don't think you're lying

1147
00:50:19,430 --> 00:50:18,120
I believe you then what happened because

1148
00:50:24,050 --> 00:50:19,440
there's a lot of people who have lost

1149
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:24,060
friends family I know I because of my

1150
00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:26,610
experiences I lost my best friend of 28

1151
00:50:31,940 --> 00:50:29,250
years and turned on me this is a guy I

1152
00:50:36,190 --> 00:50:31,950
supported right yeah there are a lot of

1153
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:36,200
[\h__\h] all right and when I needed him I

1154
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:40,410
got the screw you right that sucks

1155
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:41,370
haven't talked to him in three years

1156
00:50:47,030 --> 00:50:42,930
apparently he's getting married this

1157
00:50:51,530 --> 00:50:47,040
weekend oh yeah or this in a week from

1158
00:50:55,010 --> 00:50:51,540
now doesn't know that I know you know

1159
00:50:56,990 --> 00:50:55,020
that's heavy yeah yeah I would love to

1160
00:50:59,630 --> 00:50:57,000
be his best man right I'm the guy who

1161
00:51:01,100 --> 00:50:59,640
introduced him to his wife Wow not your

1162
00:51:05,060 --> 00:51:01,110
wife Yeah right

1163
00:51:07,940 --> 00:51:05,070
yeah but is what it is I can't do

1164
00:51:10,010 --> 00:51:07,950
anything about it because my choice of

1165
00:51:13,550 --> 00:51:10,020
lifestyle in wanting to learn about my

1166
00:51:15,590 --> 00:51:13,560
experience was more important and I

1167
00:51:17,690 --> 00:51:15,600
didn't want to come on that journey yeah

1168
00:51:20,060 --> 00:51:17,700
and there's a lot of people out there so

1169
00:51:21,860 --> 00:51:20,070
the powerful words of I believe you look

1170
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:21,870
we're all smart enough to see through

1171
00:51:27,950 --> 00:51:25,290
[\h__\h] all right I remember I had a

1172
00:51:31,100 --> 00:51:27,960
guest on Oh about three and a half years

1173
00:51:33,590 --> 00:51:31,110
ago who was trying to say that he was

1174
00:51:34,730 --> 00:51:33,600
being protected by men in black and like

1175
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:34,740
all of a sudden it was like he was

1176
00:51:41,390 --> 00:51:36,000
reading out of a comic book

1177
00:51:42,890 --> 00:51:41,400
Yeah right as my job as host you know a

1178
00:51:44,450 --> 00:51:42,900
lot of people why didn't you cut him off

1179
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:44,460
everybody wants to cut everybody off

1180
00:51:52,090 --> 00:51:48,210
these days no let him make an ass out of

1181
00:51:55,730 --> 00:51:52,100
himself yeah okay and dig his own grave

1182
00:51:58,130 --> 00:51:55,740
listen for me to do I bring the people

1183
00:52:01,250 --> 00:51:58,140
on I try and vet the people as best as I

1184
00:52:03,020 --> 00:52:01,260
can right right and my team tries to but

1185
00:52:04,910 --> 00:52:03,030
in the end the person's gonna make or

1186
00:52:06,980 --> 00:52:04,920
break themselves it's up to the audience

1187
00:52:08,839 --> 00:52:06,990
to choose whether or not a believable

1188
00:52:10,849 --> 00:52:08,849
it's not my choice right

1189
00:52:13,700 --> 00:52:10,859
I I just try and bring the credibility

1190
00:52:16,700 --> 00:52:13,710
as sometimes you fail in times you can't

1191
00:52:18,469 --> 00:52:16,710
oh you can't always you know yeah you

1192
00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:18,479
know can I just one I had one gentleman

1193
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:23,119
on who about halfway through the show

1194
00:52:28,849 --> 00:52:26,130
started wanting to talk about these

1195
00:52:32,450 --> 00:52:28,859
magic staffs that he was created and

1196
00:52:34,910 --> 00:52:32,460
selling for $2,100 Canadian whoa

1197
00:52:36,620 --> 00:52:34,920
staffs yeah and that everybody should

1198
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:36,630
have a magic staff and he started making

1199
00:52:42,799 --> 00:52:39,210
it into an infomercial Oh on your show

1200
00:52:44,210 --> 00:52:42,809
on my show so finally I thank God thank

1201
00:52:47,870 --> 00:52:44,220
God I only had the guy booked for two

1202
00:52:50,059 --> 00:52:47,880
hours not three okay okay but I came

1203
00:52:52,519 --> 00:52:50,069
back on the air and I said and I

1204
00:52:54,799 --> 00:52:52,529
apologize to my listeners and I said you

1205
00:52:58,039 --> 00:52:54,809
know this I I apologize he stopped

1206
00:53:01,069 --> 00:52:58,049
answering my questions you know and he

1207
00:53:04,130 --> 00:53:01,079
went into full infomercial about this

1208
00:53:06,890 --> 00:53:04,140
staff I said I do not I said I do not

1209
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:06,900
condone buying this I know nothing about

1210
00:53:14,739 --> 00:53:10,729
this please $2,100 for a lot of you is

1211
00:53:17,930 --> 00:53:14,749
more than your monthly income yeah

1212
00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:17,940
stay away yeah all right or if you

1213
00:53:22,039 --> 00:53:19,920
choose to that you want to do it but I

1214
00:53:25,789 --> 00:53:22,049
am not endorsing this product definitely

1215
00:53:29,690 --> 00:53:25,799
definitely okay and that honesty is what

1216
00:53:30,229 --> 00:53:29,700
you need to do right yeah do I know if

1217
00:53:32,749 --> 00:53:30,239
it works

1218
00:53:36,049 --> 00:53:32,759
no but you don't turn my interview into

1219
00:53:39,799 --> 00:53:36,059
an infamous Elling a whole bunch of crap

1220
00:53:44,209 --> 00:53:39,809
that you're making yeah I try out the

1221
00:53:47,089 --> 00:53:44,219
magic staff for sure I don't know okay

1222
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:47,099
we'll try this out live you know a live

1223
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:48,690
stream with the magics that sounds like

1224
00:53:53,890 --> 00:53:51,210
if it works yeah cool yeah still not

1225
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:53,900
telling you to buy it but it does work

1226
00:53:59,809 --> 00:53:56,729
this is a piece of [\h__\h] I use it for

1227
00:54:02,390 --> 00:53:59,819
hiking I mean I just want to know

1228
00:54:04,370 --> 00:54:02,400
because in my three years since doing

1229
00:54:06,049 --> 00:54:04,380
that interview for two years I still

1230
00:54:08,749 --> 00:54:06,059
haven't seen anybody walking around with

1231
00:54:10,579 --> 00:54:08,759
the staff I'll tell you right now if I'm

1232
00:54:12,829 --> 00:54:10,589
walking around with the staff a my beard

1233
00:54:14,839 --> 00:54:12,839
better be about three feet long yes my

1234
00:54:18,900 --> 00:54:14,849
hair must be about another foot longer

1235
00:54:22,589 --> 00:54:18,910
and I better be wearing a cape

1236
00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:22,599
a role yes if somebody comes comes at

1237
00:54:26,940 --> 00:54:24,250
you like like The Wizard game where you

1238
00:54:34,109 --> 00:54:26,950
finish appear that beer cannon - you

1239
00:54:38,460 --> 00:54:37,289
well that's super interesting dude I I

1240
00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:38,470
think we should leave it there

1241
00:54:44,039 --> 00:54:41,440
definitely I I love that what's wrong

1242
00:54:46,740 --> 00:54:44,049
with believing somebody yeah you know

1243
00:54:49,829 --> 00:54:46,750
say it's a beautiful way to kind of in

1244
00:54:52,289 --> 00:54:49,839
that yeah and just uh yeah there is

1245
00:54:54,630 --> 00:54:52,299
nothing wrong with believing somebody do

1246
00:54:56,789 --> 00:54:54,640
your own you know investigating your own

1247
00:54:59,279 --> 00:54:56,799
research come to your own conclusion at

1248
00:55:02,309 --> 00:54:59,289
the end of the day it is up to you on

1249
00:55:04,650 --> 00:55:02,319
how you feel but don't automatically

1250
00:55:07,799 --> 00:55:04,660
dismiss people just because the story

1251
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:07,809
sounds a little strange because it is a

1252
00:55:10,289 --> 00:55:09,490
little strange and we're all just trying

1253
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:10,299
to figure it out

1254
00:55:13,559 --> 00:55:12,130
absolutely and we should have say cuz

1255
00:55:15,930 --> 00:55:13,569
you guys would tell me the whole time

1256
00:55:18,150 --> 00:55:15,940
that one of your fans is a fan of mine

1257
00:55:19,500 --> 00:55:18,160
Joseph oh yes yeah we got to give a show

1258
00:55:21,180 --> 00:55:19,510
Joseph how you doing brother

1259
00:55:23,490 --> 00:55:21,190
hope you have a great time there is a

1260
00:55:26,910 --> 00:55:23,500
present for you that these guys have

1261
00:55:28,589 --> 00:55:26,920
from me so make sure you have fun with

1262
00:55:30,210 --> 00:55:28,599
it and enjoy it thank you so much for

1263
00:55:32,849 --> 00:55:30,220
being a listener and to anybody else who

1264
00:55:34,710 --> 00:55:32,859
you know wants and have this these guys

1265
00:55:36,870 --> 00:55:34,720
is great podcast tune it on in and

1266
00:55:38,700 --> 00:55:36,880
hopefully if you give us a try maybe we

1267
00:55:42,559 --> 00:55:38,710
can earn one or two of your listening

1268
00:55:45,150 --> 00:55:42,569
ears yeah cool man all right you guys

1269
00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:45,160
alright guys well it was good talking to